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	<title>Comments on: Windows 7 Taskbar Problem</title>
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		<title>By: MarkKB</title>
		<link>http://gnuu.org/2009/01/10/windows-7-taskbar-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, didn&#039;t see your reply. Sorries! ^^;

The program looks to me like some kind of text editor. The tray is for *background processes* that need little interaction with, not programs like editors that people are supposed to place their full attention on. (Sorry if my guess is off, but that&#039;s what it looks like.)

You&#039;re welcome for the tip, I just thought it&#039;d be a good thing to share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, didn&#8217;t see your reply. Sorries! ^^;</p>
<p>The program looks to me like some kind of text editor. The tray is for *background processes* that need little interaction with, not programs like editors that people are supposed to place their full attention on. (Sorry if my guess is off, but that&#8217;s what it looks like.)</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome for the tip, I just thought it&#8217;d be a good thing to share.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkKB</title>
		<link>http://gnuu.org/2009/01/10/windows-7-taskbar-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post, I just remembered something...

It&#039;s also worth noting that most programs that use the tray (IM, system tools, anti-malware, download managers, ect) are single instance, and thus clicking the button again will bring up the original process. And, of course, the button state is obviously different (between running and not-running/min to tray.)

Now, to be sure, I understand where you&#039;re coming from (users might not notice the button state, ect.), but it seems to be much less of a deal than you make it out to be. And while tray-minimizing programs are common, multi-instance ones are not, and/or tend to be for advanced users only, who probably could figure it out anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post, I just remembered something&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that most programs that use the tray (IM, system tools, anti-malware, download managers, ect) are single instance, and thus clicking the button again will bring up the original process. And, of course, the button state is obviously different (between running and not-running/min to tray.)</p>
<p>Now, to be sure, I understand where you&#8217;re coming from (users might not notice the button state, ect.), but it seems to be much less of a deal than you make it out to be. And while tray-minimizing programs are common, multi-instance ones are not, and/or tend to be for advanced users only, who probably could figure it out anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Loren Segal</title>
		<link>http://gnuu.org/2009/01/10/windows-7-taskbar-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Loren Segal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how the application is misusing the tray. If putting an icon in the tray is automatic misuse then I&#039;m not sure what you would consider standard tray use. Minimize to tray is common to tons of well designed applications (µTorrent, Skype, twhirl, etc.), including many of Windows&#039; own (MSN, Windows Defender, etc.). Given the fact that the tray behaviour in this specific application is optional, I really don&#039;t see how it&#039;s a misuse.

In any event, the middle click tip is a great one, thanks. I still think I&#039;ll stick to using the ressurected QuickLaunch, as it wastes less horizontal space than pinning applications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how the application is misusing the tray. If putting an icon in the tray is automatic misuse then I&#8217;m not sure what you would consider standard tray use. Minimize to tray is common to tons of well designed applications (µTorrent, Skype, twhirl, etc.), including many of Windows&#8217; own (MSN, Windows Defender, etc.). Given the fact that the tray behaviour in this specific application is optional, I really don&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s a misuse.</p>
<p>In any event, the middle click tip is a great one, thanks. I still think I&#8217;ll stick to using the ressurected QuickLaunch, as it wastes less horizontal space than pinning applications.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkKB</title>
		<link>http://gnuu.org/2009/01/10/windows-7-taskbar-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkKB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 02:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason that occurs is that the taskbar shows open windows, not programs. Not defending, just saying there&#039;s a method to the madness. (Although, programs that misuse the tray like the one you showed should be taken out into the street and shot, IMHO.)

To start a new instance, you can also middle-click the taskbar button.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that occurs is that the taskbar shows open windows, not programs. Not defending, just saying there&#8217;s a method to the madness. (Although, programs that misuse the tray like the one you showed should be taken out into the street and shot, IMHO.)</p>
<p>To start a new instance, you can also middle-click the taskbar button.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://gnuu.org/2009/01/10/windows-7-taskbar-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that I&#039;m a huge fan of Win 7, it is a huge step forward. HomeGroup is a terrific step forward in home networking and I think it will make average users home network&#039;s much more functional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that I&#8217;m a huge fan of Win 7, it is a huge step forward. HomeGroup is a terrific step forward in home networking and I think it will make average users home network&#8217;s much more functional.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://gnuu.org/2009/01/10/windows-7-taskbar-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good catch... I&#039;ve been using Win 7 for about 5 days and haven&#039;t hadn&#039;t noticed this but I can imagine a lot of users being confused by this. Hopefully they&#039;ll figure this out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good catch&#8230; I&#8217;ve been using Win 7 for about 5 days and haven&#8217;t hadn&#8217;t noticed this but I can imagine a lot of users being confused by this. Hopefully they&#8217;ll figure this out.</p>
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